Coping with RotK Spoilers . . .

[lavendertook]

After hearing the latest RotK spoilers, I was bummed . . . and then I remembered MESPT. Thank you Frotima and Carawise. (-;

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[lavendertook.livejournal.com]

I can tell ya here--no one should be clicking this whose worried about spoilers, but just in case, I'll leave a space here.
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OK, there was a thread on the White Council from someone who saw an early release, that I then saw discussed on adrienne's (ninglor) page. Apparently, there's going to be a scene in which Gollum convinces Frodo that Sam is stealing all the lembas and gets Frodo to send him home, but he comes back. I think they're going to have that instead of the scene where Frodo accuses Sam of stealing the ring. Sound awful and stupid or what? Also the theatrical release is leaving out the "whether or no" line, Gollum's moment of almost healing, and mention of Sam being ringbearer at the end and that he will eventually sail too.

Of course, maybe those parts will be in the extended, but letting Gollum, and not just the Ring get between Frodo and Sam like that kind of lessens the emphasis on the Ring's power as well as the bond between Frodo and Sam, so it sounds like a stupid choice that the extended won't be able to fix and much more fitting for our MESPT version of the pair. /-:

[jisms.livejournal.com]

i think that lembas thing is really odd.

[lavendertook.livejournal.com]

Isn't it? PJ must have been on the same stuff he was on when he decided to have Brego kiss Aragorn when he came up with that one. But I'll see for myself how it plays out anyway.

So, thinking of your Frodo makes the stupidiness of this plot turn feel better--it bummed me at first--I may even have to suppress my inappropriate giggling in the theater. (-;

[jisms.livejournal.com]

Ahaha aww :) Although, to be honest, the lembas thing sounds like something that Frodo would do, ahahHAHha.

[lavendertook.livejournal.com]

Seriously? Tolkien's Frodo? Ahahahaha! Nope, can't see it me self. (-:

[barbary-coast.livejournal.com]

That does sound odd. Tolkien's original scene reveals just how much the ring has already corrupted Frodo's soul. Swapping that moment for 'Bad Sam! Stealing my lembas (which I wasn't eating anyway)!' cheapens the moment.

Assuming that this spoiler is true, I gotta wonder why Jackson decided to do it. Perhaps he thought that his change would make it more obvious to newbies. Filmmakers have to make choices like that, unfortunately.

As for Brego... I actually liked that scene. It was one of the only 'comic' touches in TTT that I did like. Overall, I think that Jackson was too heavy-handed with the humor in TTT.

[lavendertook.livejournal.com]

It certainly does. It makes Gollum the powerful influence over Frodo instead of the Ring. I like that they've emphasized the kinship between Frodo and Gollum--supposing it isn't a coincidence that they both have huge siamese cat eyes--but not at the expense of lessening both the Ring's pull and the power of the bonds of love and companionship. However, they've emphasized Frodo's kinship with Gollum at the expense of the idea of Frodo's empathy, and I think this may be another instance of it and I don't like that--it's what I value most about the character.

I do understand cinematic constraints and am not a purist--I love some of the changes made to the story in FotR, but I don't see how this change helps. Still, I haven't seen it yet, so maybe that will clarify things. Maybe PJ(and maybe Boyens and Walsh) doesn't pick up on the importance of empathy--I thought he did in FoTR by making Gandalf's speech about pity and mercy central, but maybe that's not the part of the speech that moves PJ but the second part--that you've got to do your part in a hostile world--which is probably the part he focused on to get where he is as a producer. Successful people in the movie industry don't tend to get the idea that sometimes people really do need extra care and concern because we don't all have equal abilities, let alone opportunities.

It didn't quite work for me as a humor moment and was just an ewwww moment. Hehe. I agree.

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...THAT CANNOT BE TRUE.

*pines*

[lavendertook.livejournal.com]

Awwww! *holds you*

Pocky?

[brouhaha.livejournal.com]

*nibbles*

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Remember, if the scene offend thee, MESPT it(-;

[lavendertook.livejournal.com]

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