Thank you! You've really helped me with your encouragement.
I walked out feeling "eh"--that was good in places, disappointing in others. But as I said, my expectations weren't high--I couldn't see it having for me what FOTR had.
I didn't care for the music of the song either--it felt like Frodo meets James Bond, in a Bjorkish kind of way. Just wrong.
Yeah. It is quite a loss, and everyone across the fandom seems to be feeling it. Faramir was an important element of Tolkien's muse taking over in his writing. I was wondering though way back if Faramir would get short changed because of the "nicing" of Boromir and the issues they gave to Aragorn. I also think it's connected with the writers' need to portray Frodo as needing self-interest in order to be so concerned about Gollum. What Tolkien's Frodo and Faramir had in common that made them uncommonly empathetic people is very good teachers (Boromir didn't learn from Gandalf like Faramir did). I have a feeling that's something these writers aren't able to really believe in like Tolkien did./-:
Awww. He didn't work for you? I loved him.
Yeah. It didn't have the amount of heart, though it did have the sense of fun. And some of the dialog that didn't come from Tolkien in this movie was kind of lame. They should have relied as heavily on Tolkien's own words in this movie as in the first, and they didn't.
Yeah--I was disappointed some, but I was also prepared for it. It's what I call homophobic backpedalling. I got very burned by this phenomena from my days in Xena Warrior Princess fandom, so I'm kind of used to it now.
What they do in the next movie with the F/S relationship though is what will make the difference to me. If PJ cuts out their physical affection and closeness once they're in Mordor it will really take the heart out of it. The ring is a physical weight on Frodo once in Mordor and it requires the physicality of his bond with Sam to counteract it.
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Re: Weighing in here.
Date: 2002-12-19 10:49 am (UTC)I walked out feeling "eh"--that was good in places, disappointing in others. But as I said, my expectations weren't high--I couldn't see it having for me what FOTR had.
I didn't care for the music of the song either--it felt like Frodo meets James Bond, in a Bjorkish kind of way. Just wrong.
Yeah. It is quite a loss, and everyone across the fandom seems to be feeling it. Faramir was an important element of Tolkien's muse taking over in his writing. I was wondering though way back if Faramir would get short changed because of the "nicing" of Boromir and the issues they gave to Aragorn. I also think it's connected with the writers' need to portray Frodo as needing self-interest in order to be so concerned about Gollum. What Tolkien's Frodo and Faramir had in common that made them uncommonly empathetic people is very good teachers (Boromir didn't learn from Gandalf like Faramir did). I have a feeling that's something these writers aren't able to really believe in like Tolkien did./-:
Awww. He didn't work for you? I loved him.
Yeah. It didn't have the amount of heart, though it did have the sense of fun. And some of the dialog that didn't come from Tolkien in this movie was kind of lame. They should have relied as heavily on Tolkien's own words in this movie as in the first, and they didn't.
Yeah--I was disappointed some, but I was also prepared for it. It's what I call homophobic backpedalling. I got very burned by this phenomena from my days in Xena Warrior Princess fandom, so I'm kind of used to it now.
What they do in the next movie with the F/S relationship though is what will make the difference to me. If PJ cuts out their physical affection and closeness once they're in Mordor it will really take the heart out of it. The ring is a physical weight on Frodo once in Mordor and it requires the physicality of his bond with Sam to counteract it.