After claiming victimization for herself, this idiot is now hitting up the POC fans she insulted to work on her e-zine! Un-fucking-believable! This is an over the top display of privilege and if you want to know what racism looks like, that is it.

If you need some background on what this has come out of, see [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong's LJ for a collection of links, starting here and here.

From: [identity profile] morgan-dhu.livejournal.com


Yes, I've been flabbergasted over how people I (used to) respect in their professional capacities - Bear and Sarah Monette, who I do think were trying to be clueful at the beginning anyway, albeit failing rather badly in some very big ways, and Emma Bull and Patrick Nielsen Hayden, who have said some appalling things in the trope of "PoC are so emotional (read primitive, uneducated, inferior) that they don't know how to engage with a text in a rational and critical fashion (read intelligent, civilised, superior)," have been saying in these posts.

I guess that most of it is just so awful (and I'm sure that I don't fully get how awful, because I'm still at the point of just trying to fail better myself) that I am (because I have the privilege of being able to) getting stuck near the beginning of the process.




From: [identity profile] lavendertook.livejournal.com


Yeah,it's Seal Press, and Amanda Marcotte, and the fandom "but miscegination is just a kink!" imbroglio all wrapped into one with 20% More Fail Free!

Yup, me too--working on the cluelessness is a life long project--like how I phrased this entry--"if you want to see what racism looks like" was coming from a place of ally fury, but still, anyone who has been the recipient of racism really isn't welcomed in by those words, and I'm leaving out some of my friends by phrasing it that way. )-:

When to use "you" and "they" and when to use "us" without co-opting is really hard. And I feel liminally white as a Jew, and have been dealt some anti-semitism and just a tiny bit of out and out racism, but I don't want claiming my Jewishness instead of my whiteness to be like the co-opting "get-out-of-racism-free" gesture someone does when they say, "but I'm Latvian not white!" So it's complicated. But not so complicated to excuse the shit spewing out of some folks involved in this, not nearly so.

From: [identity profile] morgan-dhu.livejournal.com


Well, I just bit the bullet and posted something myself, hoping that it doesn't fail too badly and that I'm not coming off like the honky girl riding in to save the day.

One thing I think I've learned from this is that as embarrassing as it is to write something with good intentions and then be shown how badly you failed, it's better to try and fail than to stay silent. Trying and failing is a way of learning.

From: [identity profile] lavendertook.livejournal.com


Yeah, that's a hard role not to try to take up for us Pisces, so always something to be mindful of. I will go look when I can. (-:

It is, and knowing when to hold back--sometimes silence is necessary because you're in the wrong position to be the speaker, and the speaking always takes up space, and the fail might hurt someone. But then there's hubris at thinking the fail you dish really is that big a deal to someone else who deals with it every day . . . still you don't want to make your friends go, *sigh* et tu, Brutus? another one rides the bus . . . all of that.
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